Gene Simmons vs Anonymous

listen up guys I guess that because Anonymous is hitting the news with the Wikileaks thing that a lot of you are ending up here. Just for what it’s worth, half the links in this don’t work any more. Anonymous has moved on from Tieve.tk. I have no idea where they are now.

http://slyck.com/story2088_Gene_Simmons_Directly_Threatens_Anonymous_With_Legal_Action_Jail_Time

Our legal team and the FBI have been on the case and we have found a few, shall we say “adventurous” young people, who feel they are above the law.

We will soon be printing their names and pictures.

The great thing about this… I’ve been idling in Anonymous’s IRC channel for a week or so now just out of curiosity to see how they work and what their skill level really is (the answer is very varied but there are certainly some people involved who I wouldn’t want port scanning me); I’m not part of Anonymous, I haven’t participated in any of the attacks but it’s fascinating to see what they do [I did a bunch of security and hacking classes at uni but I've never 'applied' my knowledge for obvious reasons. With Anonymous I sort of get to see them doing it for reals, which is intriguing]. Firstly, as far as I can tell there’s a few people in there with botnets which make up a significant amount of the firepower (so a lot of people whose computers are attacking are completely unaware of it). Secondly, I was reading the channel when they suggested Gene Simmons the first time around and there was a split within Anonymous between whether or not they should hit “individual artists”. Personally I thought they were all missing the point; Simmons isn’t an artist, he’s an advertiser (or he has some psychological disorder) and he thrives on attention, which is exactly what you shouldn’t give him, but I am purely an observer and didn’t want to influence anything. Anyway I went to bed while they were squabbling/discussing but it seems some (but not all) went ahead and attacked him, according to Slyck the site was up and down as a result, but it was fine by the time I checked the next day.

So the attack was a bit whimiscal, and the ‘official’ voice of the project, Tieve.tk (essentially the project homepage) [edit: Tieve is currently down, probably DDoSed.], posted that they wanted to distance themselves from the attacks on Simmons. Unfortunately for our hero, however, the attack caused a hull breach in his rather colossal ego and he felt it necessary to come along and go “we’re gonna backtrace you and call the cyber police and put your photo online!”. I read the announcement on his own page, roughly five minutes before Anonymous’s IRC channel did apparently, because a few minutes later the site was completely and utterly dead. It’s fair to say Anonymous didn’t take the threat seriously. He’s now made himself a real target and Tieve is happily advocating attacking him. Stay tuned, Gene Simmons is set to shortly become the first man with a negative IQ.

As for his actual statement, it seems a bit suspect. It suggests he’s actually identified people, which is impluausible. First the FBI needs to look at the web logs and decide for themselves who the attackers are*, then they need to subpoena (or whatever the term is) the ISPs who will respond with the billpayer’s name and address, then they will need to go to the house with a warrant and sieze some equipment before they can identify which member of the household, if anoyne, is responsible. This is unlikely to happen in two or three working days, and if it’s not up to that stage I somehow doubt he’ll have received any real feedback. And threatening to post people’s photos online is the kind of thing you say when you want to rattle someone; it seems like a super original way to unmask their identity, humiliate them in front of their friends, etc etc, and it should strike fear into the hearts of anyone. Unfortunately it never works because it turns out that the first thing every 14 year old says when they’re being trolled for the first time is something along the lines of “I’m gonna get the police on you and make a website and put your names on it and stuff!”, sometimes it involves an uncle who works for the police, sometimes it involves ‘contacts’ who can ‘hack’. I guess if you’re a 60 year old famous for wearing make-up and pretending to play a bass guitar, it involves a ‘legal team’ and ‘the FBI’. It seems sensible to them but what they don’t realise is everyone else has seen it ten times before and it’s a pretty clear indicator that you don’t know how to deal with being trolled. Gene, you done goofed.

[edit: his record label site is now on a different server and is back up, we'll see how long that lasts
edit2: we'll be generous and round it up to 5 minutes]

edit 3: Posted on Slyck, don’t know if it’s real. The site’s still down from here

Update 3PM BST:

me@mybox:~$ nslookup www.genesimmons.com
Server:         208.67.222.222
Address:        208.67.222.222#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   www.genesimmons.com
Address: 194.71.107.15

me@mybox:~$ whois 194.71.107.15
% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: This output has been filtered.
%       To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '194.71.107.0 - 194.71.107.255'

inetnum:        194.71.107.0 - 194.71.107.255
netname:        THEPIEATEBAY-NET
descr:          The Pirate Bay
country:        DE
admin-c:        RL4048-RIPE
tech-c:         RL4048-RIPE
status:         ASSIGNED PI
remarks:        ---------------------------------------------------------------
remarks:        ABUSE related questions mail to abuse@thepiratebay.org
remarks:        Abuse related questions to any other address will be ignored.
remarks:        ---------------------------------------------------------------
mnt-by:         MNT-RESERVELLA
mnt-routes:     MNT-STN                                                         
source:         RIPE # Filtered                                                 

person:         Reservella LTD
address:        P.O. Box 73852
phone:          +35738743131
nic-hdl:        RL4048-RIPE
mnt-by:         MNT-RESERVELLA
source:         RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '194.71.107.0/24AS50066'

route:          194.71.107.0/24
descr:          The Pirate Bay
origin:         AS50066
mnt-by:         MNT-STN
source:         RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '194.71.107.0/24AS51040'

route:          194.71.107.0/24
descr:          The Pirate Bay
origin:         AS51040
mnt-by:         MNT-STN
source:         RIPE # Filtered

Genesimmons.com now pointed to The Pirate Bay!
Either Anonymous has managed to DNS poison something (but no one’s taking credit for it on IRC) or Simmons’ admin has tried to redirect all the traffic to the Pirate Bay so that Anonymous DDoSes TPB instead. This would probably be illegal.

_______
*Bear in mind the difference between a DoSer and a legitimate user is only the amount of traffic/load they’re generating, and I don’t know about you, but the first thing I do when I hear a site’s being DDoSed is to go and visit it to see how it’s holding up, which is not at all illegal because you’re not visiting with the intent (or, really, ability) of overloading the server. Also, I’ve seen a few uptime graphs of attacked sites, which means there’s at least one person sending them packets every so often to check whether they’re responding, which again is fine because the amount of load they generate is trivial, but it does mean that there are more log entries to analyse. So you expect a traffic influx from publicity alone, which makes it harder to discern legitimate traffic from malicious traffic because the logs are ‘noisier’. And that’s assuming the server is still able to write logs.

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24 comments on “Gene Simmons vs Anonymous
  1. Pandora114 says:

    Heh. I guess Gene Simmons is Jessie Slaughter’s dad or something. HE BACKTRACED!

  2. [...] that wasn’t all that funny. This was. According to observers who were hanging out in the Anonymous IRC channel, there was a bit of a split over whether or not to go after “individual artists” like [...]

  3. anonymoust says:

    Proceed with caution Mr Simmons.
    Empty threats only show weakness and insults the intelligence of the legion-of-the-unsung.
    ~You are a slave to your own egotistical hubris.
    ~You are asleep.
    ~anonymous has no snooze button; you will be plagued until your futile plight ceases to amuse the nameless hordes.
    ~~~enjoy your downtime.

    • Represetitive Anonymous says:

      Dear “Anonymous”,

      ~You’re childish antics aren’t helping anyone, nor are they amusing.

      ~You all need to get real Jobs.

      ~Hobbies would be nice too.

      ~No seriously, get off the fricking computer and find something usefull to do.

      ~You’ve turned in to nothing more than a cyber playground bully, and every bully gets socked in the face eventually.

      But in all seriousness, You’re defacing the original concept of Anonymous. A righting of wrongs, a way to protest without fear of backlash upon the person behind the mask. These were some of the harmless base concepts that the True Anonymous was orriginally built on.

      What you are doing isn’t helping anyone. What you are doing is, at it’s very core, harming the way of Anonymous.

      Continue bullying, and eventually your victims will grow tired, weary, vengful. It is then that you will learn, too late, the wrongs you have commited. It is then that the victims will strike back with such vengence as you have never known.

      Caution has been advised. You have been allowed to play these childish games too long.

      • laeknishendr says:

        Well no offence, but to an impartial observer, both you and ‘anonymoust’ look equally ridiculous.

        • Represetitive Anonymous says:

          None taken. We who use the anonymous mask in an attempt to actully make good changes in the world are simply growing tired of this foolishness.

          • Not Anonymous just anon says:

            I agree. It seems that Anonymous has turned from a group that was trying to do some good to a bunch of vandals who are just out to cause chaos. What was the point of, for example, attacking the anti-profanity site and publishing the kid’s home address and phone number for all to see? To harass a teenager who’s against profanity? Wow, those anonymous idiots must be really proud of themselves.

          • laeknishendr says:

            @Not Anonymous just anon

            You don’t seem to be aware that Anonymous during one “project” probably has zero intersection with Anonymous during another project. I doubt anyone involved with the Gene Simmons thing was also involved with whatever incident you are talking about.

            I think it would be romanticising the situation somewhat if one was to say that chaotic vandalism ever was not a driving force of Anonymous.

          • 9001 says:

            @Not Anonymous just anon
            Just want to point the fact that Anon a.k.a. 4chan have drive people to suicide in the past and that only bring lulz to them. They also have helped arrest kitten torturer or kid who threatened bombing their school. Anon don’t have morality, anon don’t have rule, anon nerver forget (but give them 2 week and what happened will only be an old and over used meme).

            The best description of anonymous I found can be read on wikipedia :

            [Anonymous is] the first internet-based superconsciousness. Anonymous is a group, in the sense that a flock of birds is a group. How do you know they’re a group? Because they’re travelling in the same direction. At any given moment, more birds could join, leave, peel off in another direction entirely.—Landers, Chris, Baltimore City Paper, April 2, 2008.[6]

            my 2 cents and sry for english.

        • anonymoust says:

          laeknishendr:

          This was an informative article. If you have no information to contribute to the topic itself quit trolling the comments.

          Remaining impartial negates your point of view.

          • laeknishendr says:

            anonymoust, there’s only one person currently trolling the comments, and I’ll give you a clue: it’s not me.

            You are aware this is my blog, right?

      • anonymoust says:

        Represetitive Anonymous:
        (Did you mean representative?)

        “You’re childish antics aren’t helping anyone, nor are they amusing.”
        –Not Helping? :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhrGlWDLBdg
        –Not amusing? Where do you think all the internet memes come from????????

        “You all need to get real Jobs”
        –Consider the common label the ‘group’ is referred to as. You’re statement is an appeal to ignorance from an unqualified authority. You, sir are and idiot.

        “Hobbies would be nice too”, “find something useful to do”
        –I would think learning computer networking, programming (useful to get into the IT field) and participating in legitimate protests qualify as a hobby.

        “You’ve turned in to” “You’re defacing the original concept of Anonymous”
        –There is no centralized group to turn “in to” anything.
        –There is no concept to this disambiguation to deface. ‘Deface’ is just your imposition of flawed logic.

        “base concepts that the True Anonymous was ORRIGIONALLY built on”
        –This one gets me. I don’t think you comprehend the subject. Please let the readers know what these concepts are.
        “isn’t helping anyone”
        –Redundant statement is redundant.
        “What you are doing is, at IT’S very core, harming the way of Anonymous.”
        –Again. Harming the core of WHAT?!? What WAY of Anonymous?!?

        “the victims will strike back with such vengence as you have never known.”
        –ORLY? More so than FBI probing, Gene Simmons The Church of Scientology,
        The RIAA or The MIAA?
        There is not target to strike. No goal, leaders or static agenda to stop.

        Get the fuck out of here kid, you bother me.

  4. [...] that wasn’t all that funny. This was. According to observers who were hanging out in the Anonymous IRC channel, there was a bit of a split over whether or not to go after “individual artists” like [...]

  5. [...] that wasn’t all that funny. This was. According to observers who were hanging out in the Anonymous IRC channel, there was a bit of a split over whether or not to go after “individual artists” like [...]

  6. wild says:

    I’m a Kiss fan.. Bit i hate Gene. he talks too much… Bullshit!!!!!!!

  7. I do not understand everything until the end due to my level of English but despite this, your post opened my eyes to certain things. Greets from Mexico.

  8. The Dude says:

    The FBI Actually doesn’t need subpoenas to be at ISP logs. Thanks to the Patriot Act all they need is a National Security Letter which authorizes them to get all the data they want. To get one of those all an FBI Agent has to do is talk to the Head of his Office, or more often then not, the Secretary for the boss. Got that from a former FBI Agent I know.

  9. [...] não é aí que mora a notícia. É aqui. De acordo com testemunhas que estavam dando sopa no canal do IRC do Anonymous, havia uma divisão de opiniões quando o assunto era ir atrás ou não de “artistas [...]

  10. [...] sivustoa pommitettiin, sen ylläpitäjät muuttivat nimipalvelimessa palvelinosoitteen ohjaamaan liikenteen Pirate Bayn osoitteeseen. Näin genesimmons.comia vastaan hyökänneet itse asiassa hyökkäsivät Pirate Baytä vastaan. [...]

  11. Jeem says:

    > I do not understand everything until the end
    > due to my level of English but despite this,
    > your post opened my eyes to certain things.

    In this case I would be interested in your summary about this text :-D

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